I don't like posting after my own post, since I feel like I'm hogging the forum and maybe just talking to myself, but since I'm online again after several years (finally shelled out the money for a satellite dish), I realize how much info I've been missing. For example:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6266393.stmhttp://www.motherjones.orghttp://www.iraqbodycount.orgThe latter gives what is probably the best approximation of civilian casualties in Iraq, which is 2-3 times the Iraqi interior ministry count but also far, far less than the British medical journal Lancet's count. However, let's not forget over a million people have fled to other countries.